http://energeticprocession.wordpress.com/2009/02/20/we-have-met-the-enemy/

Planned Parenthood is not celebrating the birth of our Lord and Savior, let’s just say that.

If the baby in the manger is anything other than “God with us,” then we missed the point of the Christmas story. When we couldn’t come to him, he came to us.

Thanks for the post, though. I just can’t think about it too much.

On one hand you are willing to suggest that since KKK members support McCain and since he publicly never accepted their support and has rejected racism, then we can’t associate McCain with the KKK. I agree 100%. That’s a great position. It would be absurd to assume a person has the views of all he people that support them. However, this is exactly what you’ve done with this post. Obama, mulitiple times, has repudiated Farrakhann, yet you’ve associated them. Obama has been clear in his stance on this. In fact, he has made this public on national television, but I’ve yet to see anywhere in print, video, or audio a direct disassociation of the KKK by McCain. Personally, it think its absurd to ask either of them to renounce people they’ve never claimed to be in agreement. You have a classic double-standard.

Here’s an article about the Klan’s support of McCain and support at his appearances…

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1844872,00.html

You said “I am not directly questioning Obama’s faith. However, I see some radical inconsistencies with him and orthodox, historic Christianity.” Well, which is it? To point out inconsistencies is EXACTLY what questioning his faith means. Now that we’ve proven you are questioning his faith, would you care to suggest on what grounds you make this claim? Where has he been inconsistent with the Christian faith? Do you have a real claim or are you merely spouting rhetoric and propaganda? I’d hope you have some strong evidence. I don’t think this is something you can “simply leave as that”. To make claims and raise questions about someone’s faith demands some facts. Please enlighten us about the research you’ve done and the facts you’ve used to make such claims.

You’ve asked many “what ifs”, yet, you’ve acted as if these are hard facts. This amounts to slander and it is the type of language that is destroying our Christian faith and our reputation as the people following Christ. People are growing more and more sick of Christians showing ignorance, bigotry, and acting contrary to the message of Jesus. As a fellow Christian, I hope you’ll consider retracting these kind of comments that slanders the witness of another fellow Christian.

You also seem to claim monotheism, yet in the next breath entertain the notion of polytheism. For example you said…

“We can also never forget that Satan also has a kingdom (Matthew 13), and he is the god of many – so not everyone is speaking of the same kingdom when they say ‘Kingdom of God.’”

Here you imply that Satan is real with a real kingdom. Which is it? Is there more than one real God? Is the more than one kingdom of God?

Lastly, do you suggest that Islam has a different God despite the fact that they clearly reference the God of Abraham (you know, the one that created the universe). I disagree with many more minor points of Islam, yet I’ve never heard of a Muslim worshiping any God other than the one that created the universe and was worshiped by Abraham, Moses, and Jesus. If you have some data or evidence of anything other than that, I’d love to hear it. Again, please enlighten me.

I too hope you will objectively take what I’ve said and I also hope you’ll objectively critique what you’ve said and how it will be heard by both Christians and non-Christians reading this conversation. I feel there is much to be said and much to be lost as the witness of Christ is potentially tarnished. The reputation of Christ and the reputation of my brother in Christ, Barack Obama, is at stake. Those are items of great value.

1. “So if a person captivates the youth, then that means they are somehow claiming to be the messiah?”
—I did not say this. This is what Farrakhan said the “sign” of the Messiah was. So don’t put that statement on me. I am merely referring to the ridiculousness of Farrakhan.

2. I am not directly questioning Obama’s faith. However, I see some radical inconsistencies with him and orthodox, historic Christianity. I’ll simply leave it at that, for his faith is not the point of this post. This post is me wanting him to show distance from himself and the absurd statements of Louis Farrakhan.

3. I say that there are multiple Messiahs? If you read my quote objectively – you would notice one instance of Messiah is capitalized and not in quotations; while another instance of “messiah” is not capitalized and in quotations. Basic grammatical knowledge would show that I am giving credence to one being truly the Messiah, while the other being the giving the title of “messiah” without actually being the true Messiah. Jesus Christ, the living Son of God, God in the flesh, the one who died on the cross for our sins, the One true Intercessor before the Father – this is the only True Messiah. However many religions claim “messiahs” just as many religions claim their “gods” who are not really actually Messiahs, nor actually Gods at all – other religions have false “gods” and false “messiahs.” This is true of both Farrakhan’s “messiah” and “god.”

4. You say: “So if Farrakhan is willing to speak about the Messiah, then he gets points for that even if I disagree with him in other areas.” What if Farrkhan is talking about Satan when he says “the Messiah?” Of course he wouldn’t get points for talking about his false “messiah.” That would be crazy. Not that I think he’s talking about Satan – but he very well could be referring to W.D. Fard. As the head of the Nation of Islam, he would believe that W.D. Fard was the incarnation of God Himself. So by saying “Messiah,” does he get points in your book by not referring to Jesus, but referring to a mere sinful man? He certainly does not get points in my book, nor in any book of any true Christian’s book for that matter. This is certainly the case of 2,000 years of orthodox Christianity.

5. Islam and Christianity do not both seek the Kingdom of God. The God of Christianity is the Father of the Lord Jesus Christ. Not the man Jesus who was simply a prophet as Islam believes. Farrakhan does not even belong to Islam, but the Nation of Islam – which the Islamic religion disregards as absurd. The Kingdom of God is only a Kingdom when the True King is in His rightful place. The King would be the Lord Jesus Christ, who is the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords (as Revelation 17:14 makes abundantly clear). We can also never forget that Satan also has a kingdom (Matthew 12), and he is the god of many – so not everyone is speaking of the same kingdom when they say “Kingdom of God.”

6. I can only say Obama “claims” to be a devout Christian. I do not know his heart. I can say that there is much that I do know that concerns me for him. However, I will not state whether or not he is a true Christian in such a manner.

7. I have never heard of the KKK support McCain publically. I have, however, heard McCain speak directly in opposition to the issue of racism. This would speak against both the KKK as well as the Nation of Islam by refusing to lift one race higher than another. Racism is one of the most abominable things around, and I am glad to know that McCain has been clear in his stance against it.

I hope you objectively take what I have said. I feel that there is little else to be said. None the less, thanks for stopping by.